3 Collapsing models [R] | SpinGraph: None
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keywords: BI-RADS
keywords: VinDr
keywords: class imbalance
keywords: None
keywords: narrative intelligence
published: 2026-08-10T09:42:54+00:00
modified: 2026-08-10T18:24:56.951125+00:00

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3 Collapsing models [R]
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description: SpinGraph analysis of Reddit r/MachineLearning's 3 Collapsing models [R] story: None, None, Spin Score 0%, low AI repetition risk.
date published: 2026-08-10T09:42:54+00:00
date modified: 2026-08-10T18:24:56.951125+00:00
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language: en-US
article section: community
keywords: BI-RADS, VinDr, class imbalance, model collapse, center loss
author: Reddit r/MachineLearning
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citation: https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/1vkg921/3_collapsing_models_r/
about: BI-RADS
about: VinDr
about: class imbalance
about: model collapse
about: center loss
mentions: Reddit r/MachineLearning
abstract: User attempted BI-RADS detection using cross-entropy loss, center loss, and class weights on VinDr dataset All three models collapsed to predicting BI-RADS 1 almost exclusively User seeks community input on whether loss function choice is the root cause

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  value: A researcher reported model collapse to BI-RADS 1 when training on VinDr due to class imbalance.
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  value: It leverages the credibility of community norms (transparency, humility, collaboration) to normalize failure without accountability; the tension lies between the severity of collapse (a systemic red flag) and its presentation as a minor tuning issue — no validation, no external benchmarks, no error analysis offered.
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    text: All three models collapsed to predicting BI-RADS 1 due to heavy class imbalance in VinDr.
    appearance: all of them seem to collapse between birads 1 as the dataset (VinDr) im using is heavily unbalanced towards it
    author: Reddit r/MachineLearning