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# Inside the big business of the creator economy, with the agents making it happen

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**Published:** July 6, 2026  
**Original:** https://www.theverge.com/podcast/961603/raina-penchansky-ali-berman-dba-uta-influencer-cliff-marketing  

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- [Overview](#overview)

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## Overview

We’ve got another special episode of Decoder today, recorded at the Cannes Lions advertising festival in the South of France. I’m talking with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky, who run the Creators division at United Talent Agency. UTA is an enormous talent agency. Half the people you’ve ever heard speak or perform or who show […]

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