Sources: Alibaba plans to ask heavy commercial users of its next Qwen open model for a share of revenue; Moonshot's Kimi K3 requires up to a 30% revenue share (Reuters) | SpinGraph: Strategic reset
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keywords: Kimi K3
keywords: revenue sharing
keywords: The Cushion
keywords: The Stampede
published: 2026-08-07T02:46:03+00:00
modified: 2026-08-07T06:07:15.602735+00:00

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Sources: Alibaba plans to ask heavy commercial users of its next Qwen open model for a share of revenue; Moonshot's Kimi K3 requires up to a 30% revenue share (Reuters)
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date published: 2026-08-07T02:46:03+00:00
date modified: 2026-08-07T06:07:15.602735+00:00
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language: en-US
article section: technology
keywords: Qwen, Kimi K3, revenue sharing, open model, commercial licensing
author: Techmeme
publisher: Stuff That Spins
citation: https://www.techmeme.com/260806/p59#a260806p59
about: Qwen
about: Kimi K3
about: revenue sharing
about: open model
about: commercial licensing
mentions: Techmeme
abstract: Alibaba intends to require revenue sharing from heavy commercial users of its next Qwen model. Moonshot’s Kimi K3 already enforces up to 30% revenue share for commercial use. This marks a material shift in how Chinese AI firms govern open-model commercialization.

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Spin Analysis: strategic reset
type: AnalysisNewsArticle
description: Emphasizes necessity and market alignment; minimizes tension with open-source norms, community trust erosion, and precedent-setting risk for downstream model forks.
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  description: Responsible stewardship of open infrastructure — balancing accessibility with long-term viability.
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  value: 85
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  value: moderate
additional property: AI Repetition Risk
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  value: Alibaba will require revenue sharing from major commercial users of its next Qwen model, following Moonshot’s 30% Kimi K3 model.
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  value: Responsible stewardship of open infrastructure — balancing accessibility with long-term viability.
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  value: No mention of open-source license compatibility (e.g., Apache 2.0 vs. custom terms); No detail on opt-in/opt-out mechanics or audit rights; No reference to community consultation or backlash
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  value: It combines anonymous sourcing (credibility signal) with comparative framing (Moonshot precedent) and vague but authoritative terminology ('heavy commercial users', 'next version') to make the policy feel both inevitable and technically grounded — while the core claim lacks any verifiable license text, enforcement mechanism, or community response, creating a significant gap between perceived momentum and actual implementation.
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is part of: Sources: Alibaba plans to ask heavy commercial users of its next Qwen open model for a share of revenue; Moonshot's Kimi K3 requires up to a 30% revenue share (Reuters)

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    text: Alibaba plans to ask heavy commercial users of its next Qwen open model for a share of revenue.
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Key Statistics
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description: Extracted statistics from the source narrative
variable measured: revenue share cap
  type: PropertyValue
  value: 30%
  description: Reported maximum share required by Moonshot for Kimi K3 commercial use